Neither side can succeed, or will succeed, because their goals are set upon false premises to begin with.

[ And he gives a little shrug, like extra punctuation at the end of the sentence. Whether Howl is right or not, he's clearly convinced that he is. ]

And yes, precisely! Not just one world, but "all" of them? It's preposterous. And these relics we're meant to collect to do it, these "Oracles"... you can just go to the Tree and look at them? They're tangible objects capable of being perceived by a regular person? And yet, they're supposed to have that level of power.

[ He throws one hand back into the air dismissively. It's ridiculous. ]